Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage-19.txt> (BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks) to Informational RFC

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Hi John,

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wirtgen-bgp-tls/

And for DTLS ... isn't this simply TCP over DTLS which works just fine ? 

Many thx,
R.



On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 4:38 PM John Scudder <jgs=40juniper.net@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I haven’t done a full review of this document, but I did notice that Roman Danyliw balloted DISCUSS on version 15 [1], asking, among other things, "Are there pointers for BGP over DTLS? Over TLS?”. This doesn’t appear to have been addressed, either in Linda’s reply to Roman [2], or in the text of the document. It seems ill-advised to be last calling a document with an unaddressed DISCUSS. For what it’s worth, Roman’s point seems to me to be on target — as far as I’m aware, there is no IETF specification for BGP over TLS, and I don’t expect that there will ever be a specification for BGP over DTLS, given that BGP assumes a stream transport.

$0.02,

—John

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage/ballot/#draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage_roman-danyliw
[2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/-AT3GpMR6rr6-ywB5vWD7EbGk0w/

> On Feb 1, 2024, at 11:58 AM, The IESG <iesg-secretary@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> The IESG has received a request from the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG (bess) to
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>   scale SD-WAN overlay networks with little manual intervention.
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