I haven’t done a full review of this document, but I did notice that Roman Danyliw balloted DISCUSS on version 15 [1], asking, among other things, "Are there pointers for BGP over DTLS? Over TLS?”. This doesn’t appear to have been addressed, either in Linda’s reply to Roman [2], or in the text of the document. It seems ill-advised to be last calling a document with an unaddressed DISCUSS. For what it’s worth, Roman’s point seems to me to be on target — as far as I’m aware, there is no IETF specification for BGP over TLS, and I don’t expect that there will ever be a specification for BGP over DTLS, given that BGP assumes a stream transport. $0.02, —John [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage/ballot/#draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage_roman-danyliw [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/-AT3GpMR6rr6-ywB5vWD7EbGk0w/ > On Feb 1, 2024, at 11:58 AM, The IESG <iesg-secretary@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > The IESG has received a request from the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG (bess) to > consider the following document: - 'BGP Usage for SD-WAN Overlay Networks' > <draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage-19.txt> as Informational RFC > > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final > comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the > last-call@xxxxxxxx mailing lists by 2024-02-15. Exceptionally, comments may > be sent to iesg@xxxxxxxx instead. In either case, please retain the beginning > of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. > > Abstract > > > The document discusses the usage and applicability of BGP as the > control plane for multiple SD-WAN scenarios. The document aims to > demonstrate how the BGP-based control plane is used for large- > scale SD-WAN overlay networks with little manual intervention. > > SD-WAN edge nodes are commonly interconnected by multiple types of > underlay networks owned and managed by different network > providers. > > > > > The file can be obtained via > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage/__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!E4My2sQFYwfDPTtjIaFd1jpCRXVBB-u6OkgI3yHHnKfSsS4Kc80iA-x0qPn_krxB9c0LBSQsXvI1RN7dGgEtnA$ > > > > No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@xxxxxxxx > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!E4My2sQFYwfDPTtjIaFd1jpCRXVBB-u6OkgI3yHHnKfSsS4Kc80iA-x0qPn_krxB9c0LBSQsXvI1RN5i_8mwVg$ -- last-call mailing list last-call@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call