Re: Bot postings, was Re: Messages from the ietf list for the week ending Sun Oct 8 06:00:02 2023

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On 12-Oct-23 01:18, Mary B wrote:
Thomas Narten used to send these posts and they've been around as long as I've been around which is a very long time.

You can find past discussion from the community as to whether people find them valuable around the time John started being the poster:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/eFnxqosHQVRnIaRPobzjcbzTCpA/ <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/eFnxqosHQVRnIaRPobzjcbzTCpA/>

Personally, when I've been engaged in discussions, seeing my name near the top of the list is a reminder that it might be time to drop the discussion as many on this list can go on for a very long time, which can be way more annoying than this weekly message IMHO.

Yes. I usually delete this message unread, but if I've been active on this list during the week, I glance at it to see if I've been *unreasonably* active. The total cost to me is less than 1% of the time I spend per week reviewing and deleting my spam folder and generic IETF botmail. If you really don't want to see it, it's trivial to auto-delete it on any reasonable mail UA.

 I think it's also somewhat useful in considering diversity within our community as you can see that it's not a very diverse list of people that do post.

True, although that would need an in-depth study.

   Brian


Regards,
Mary.

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:32 PM Paul Wouters <paul.wouters=40aiven.io@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:40aiven.io@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    This bot is now posting as much as 13 entries on this 18 entries list (but seems to give itself an entitlement not to be listed)

    I’m also not sure what the original reasoning behind this bot was. I hope it wasn’t any name or shame calling that was based number of emails instead of based on content of emails.

    Is there anyone who still believes these emails serve a legitimate purpose, and if so could you explain to me what it is?

    Or lacking that, can we tell the poster to retire this bot?

    Paul


    Sent using a virtual keyboard on a phone

     > On Oct 8, 2023, at 06:00, John Levine <johnl@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:johnl@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
     >
     >    Count    |      Bytes     |  Who
     > ------------+----------------+-------
     > 37 ( 100%) | 511331 ( 100%) | Total
     >  6 (16.2%) |  48576 ( 9.5%) | Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
     >  6 (16.2%) |  34621 ( 6.8%) | S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:sm%2Bietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
     >  5 (13.5%) |  89229 (17.5%) | Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:phill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
     >  3 ( 8.1%) |  12774 ( 2.5%) | Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx <mailto:cabo@xxxxxxx>>
     >  2 ( 5.4%) |  36781 ( 7.2%) | Dave Cridland <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dave@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
     >  2 ( 5.4%) |  25822 ( 5.0%) | Raghu Saxena <poiasdpoiasd@xxxxxxxx <mailto:poiasdpoiasd@xxxxxxxx>>
     >  1 ( 2.7%) |  58266 (11.4%) | Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:rwilton@xxxxxxxxx>>
     >  1 ( 2.7%) |  38479 ( 7.5%) | John Mattsson <john.mattsson@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:john.mattsson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
     >  1 ( 2.7%) |  37655 ( 7.4%) | Daniel Migault <mglt.ietf@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:mglt.ietf@xxxxxxxxx>>
     >  1 ( 2.7%) |  37436 ( 7.3%) | Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gorry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
     >  1 ( 2.7%) |  16381 ( 3.2%) | Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:evyncke@xxxxxxxxx>>
     >  1 ( 2.7%) |  16287 ( 3.2%) | Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx>>
     >  1 ( 2.7%) |  14704 ( 2.9%) | Livingood, Jason <jason_livingood@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jason_livingood@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
     >  1 ( 2.7%) |  12062 ( 2.4%) | Christian Huitema <huitema@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:huitema@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
     >  1 ( 2.7%) |   8436 ( 1.6%) | John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx <mailto:john-ietf@xxxxxxx>>
     >  1 ( 2.7%) |   7564 ( 1.5%) | Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx>>
     >  1 ( 2.7%) |   7386 ( 1.4%) | Chris Box <chris.box.ietf@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:chris.box.ietf@xxxxxxxxx>>
     >  1 ( 2.7%) |   5725 ( 1.1%) | Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mcr%2Bietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
     >  1 ( 2.7%) |   3147 ( 0.6%) | IETF Agenda <agenda@xxxxxxxx <mailto:agenda@xxxxxxxx>>
     >





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