Re: Approaching the IETF - A View from Civil Society

[Lloyd W <lloyd.wood=40yahoo.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

https://www.iwf.org.uk/news-media/all/iwf-podcast-warns-introducing-end-to-end-encryption-to-messaging-apps-could-hinder-detection-of-child-sexual-abuse-imagery/

"IWF Podcast Warns Introducing End-to-end Encryption to Messaging Apps Could Hinder Detection of Child Sexual Abuse Imagery

Published:  Thu 8 Jun 2023"

"The IWF, which is responsible for eliminating child sexual abuse imagery from the internet,"

who agreed that responsibility with them?

Warning about the dangers of _introducing_ end-to-end encryption to messaging apps, as Apple threatens to withdraw already-end-to-end secure Messages and FaceTime from the UK, is very much relying on and appealing to a non-technical, non-critical thinking, audience.

See e.g.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/20/uk-surveillance-law-changes-could-force-apple-to-withdraw-security-features

  also published this month.

Lloyd Wood

lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx

hey, I wasn't around for the initial design of UDP.

Let's hold a meeting to bring me up to speed so we can do it over with my valuable input!

On 26 Jul 2023, at 11:32, George Michaelson <ggm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The author works for a body which argues strongly in favour of
watering down encryption, mandating escrow and state actor insight
into encrypted data at rest, and in flight, and for obligated scans of
content for CSA material.

I suspect that this colours a lot of the engagement. It's very hard to
be dispassionate across the cultural divide over primacy of rights.
Fundamentally, Child Protection advocacy almost always winds up
seeking to water down the primacy of privacy preserving technology.