>> For information, a WG is there to get some work done. > For your information, a WG is there to BUILD CONSENSUS. Yes. Which takes work to build. Hint: It’s called a working group. Bonus points are available after building consensus if your consensus result * doesn’t destroy the Internet * doesn’t disadvantage the actual end users (RFC 8890) * can be implemented at a reasonable cost * has a deployment strategy so it is technically possible to put it in * has the deployment incentives so it actually gets deployed * doesn’t have barn door sized security holes * achieves any of the original objectives * has at least a rudimentary understanding of its security objectives and how they are met etc. etc. Which all also takes work. > discard all or part of the earlier work. I cannot help noticing that you are very fixated on discarding, destroying. I’ll stop arguing here. Grüße, Carsten