Re: [Last-Call] [Manycouches] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-shmoo-remote-fee-05

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Hi All,

> On Jan 30, 2023, at 4:23 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> The question in my mind (which I think overlaps with parts of
> John Scudder's concerns) is that, if we are going to say,
> however vaguely and ambiguously, that the LLC can decide that
> fee waivers are costing too much and start limiting their number
> and/or limiting the conditions under which they can be approved,
> do we want to provide any general guidance?

Since I got name-checked, I should say for clarity that my concern while it might be said to be related, is distinct from John K’s. To the extent I’ve taken a position on providing guidance about conditions, it’s found in the text I suggested earlier: “… this document takes no absolute position as to whether conditions might be placed on a participant’s eligibility for such an option, **or what those conditions, if any, might be**” (emphasis added). I’m comfortable with leaving the details completely up to the LLC for now. Note “for now”, we can always revisit this later in the — in my view unlikely — event that a problem arises. 

My own gripe is limited to, I think the document is not clear enough in saying that conditions (albeit of an explicitly unspecified nature) are permitted to be applied at all. I suppose one might squint hard and call that the degenerate case of “providing general guidance” but I think it’s a reach.

—John S
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