On 2022-12-21 19:15, tom petch wrote:
This month there has been a marked increase in the amount of IETF e-mail
that my ESP classifies as junk which means that I cannot retrieve it
with an MUA and that it will be discarded in three weeks time. Since my
ESP is one of the larger ones, I imagine that others among the 55,000
will be affected
Judging from followups, I'm using essentially the same ESP.
My experience is slightly different.
First, I took me a long time to figure out that there is actually a
problem. That way, I have probably lost quite a few emails over the past
few years (since we switched from a department-run email server to a
"provider").
Since I'm aware of the problem, I log in to the Webmail service every
day first thing in the morning, manually declare any non-junk mail in
the junk folder as non-junk, and then also move all the other mails in
the junk folder to the Webmail inbox (just to be on the safe side).
My impression is that over time, that has led to an improvement of the
situation (to around 1 false positive per day, from maybe 5 or so). But
the false positives are still all over the place. This ranges from
half-way explainable situations (new names,...) to complete mysteries,
such as mails from an address that I designated as 'Do not classify
anything from this sender as junk' over and over when that feature was
still available. Also, overall, mails from github are more affected than
mails from the IETF, which makes some sense given the frequency and
content of mails from github. Local spam filtering with Thunderbird is
way, way more precise, although of course still not absolutely perfect.
As I'm still happily using POP, all the IMAP-based solutions (which
require the server to store stuff for me, something I don't like)
proposed in followup mails don't work for me. The ideal thing would be
if the ESP offered an opt-out "Do not filter out spam.". Last time I
checked, there was no such thing.
Regards, Martin.
Every RFC announcement from the RFC Editor is junk.
The headers thereof I see show spf=pass dmarc=none action=none,
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.947 tagged_above=-999 required=5
Most announcements from the IAB Executive Admnistrative Manager are junk
Some posts to the ARCHD list are junk
Some posts to other WG lists are junk including one I made in response
to a thread.
Something has changed, either in the headers that the IETF is putting on
its e-mails or in the criteria that the ESP uses to classify e-mail, I
would think. The chances of the ESP doing anything helpful (for a
paying customer) I would rate as nil.
Certainly the ESP website has changed. It used to give me the option of
'Do not classify anything from this sender as junk' and that option
seems to have gone.
I have always had a level of false positives for junk and my feedback is
always ignored. Usually, the junk is an e-mail from an unfamiliar name
about and unfamiliar topic, sometimes several from the same person but
junking the RFC Editor and the IAB take this to a new level.
Thoughts?
Tom Petch
