On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 11:43 PM Dan Harkins <dharkins@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 10/10/22 6:45 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> Can you explain how that draft referred to you in a way that is “borderline libellous”, as no version ever seemed to have contained your name?
And hence the limitations of grepping the draft versus reading the
draft.
-07 said, without any evidence whatsoever:
"The racist behavior in the community that has
surfaced as a result of this larger debate among technologists (see
for example https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-les-white-
intersectional-dots-00 and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/
draft-les-white-tls-preferred-pronouns-00 ) reportedly pushed away
participants and observers [Conger]."
Thank you for clarifying the alleged libel referred to the anonymous draft written by you that
was quoted by multiple authors of another draft document (though you only accused one of them).
reasonable person would understand the statement as referring to him or
her. And it is my contention that a reasonable person who is tangentially
familiar with the IETF would understand either -07 or -08 as referring
to me. I mean, who do you think wrote [White1] and [White2] which the
draft says is behavior that pushed away technologists and is an
illustration of the need to struggle against the racists amongst us?
I am aware that after I tracked down and exposed you as the author, you publicly confirmed writing them.
Who are these racists amongst us? Well, it's pretty clear.
I will let the PR run its course on this one.
Now compare that to the explicit mention of you by one of those drafts.
It wished to thank you for your "public demonstration of courage by denying
an audience to haters and white supremacists." Yet you are very proud of
this public demonstration (you unsubscribing from the general ietf list).
So what's the issue?
The issue is that I felt bullied off the ietf@xxxxxxxx mailinglist by you and a few others. Tihs was made possible
by the creation of admin-discuss@ and last-call@. And that even my leaving is considered by you as malicious
virtue signing. Note that this is after I blocked, unblocked and blocked you from emailing me at my personal email
due to the nature and content of your emails over the course of about 2 years.
Or as XKCD has put it: https://xkcd.com/1984/
Anyway. I have the piece of information I was looking for. Thank you.
Paul
Dan.
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