On Fri, Sep 09, 2022 at 01:26:58PM -0400, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > > What I am saying is that XMPP is nowhere near successful enough to claim > squatters rights on that particular problem area. > > The success of 'protocols' is irrelevant to me, I only care about > infrastructures. At this point we can be reasonably sure that the Web will > endure for centuries but that can't be said of HTTP or HTML or the WebPKI > or any other 'protocol' that I worked on. The IETF standardizes protocols, not infrastructures. And if you think having somethinig at a particular standards level will automatically mean that some other up-and-coming alternative is doomed to failure, I'd suggest that perhaps you have a much higher opintion about the value of having something called "Proposed Standard" or even "Full Standard" might mean. - Ted