Joel there was a complaint that was being responded to? "uncivil commentary" is very much a judgment call. Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx > On 24 Aug 2022, at 13:03, Joel Halpern <jmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Lloyd, which of the following are you objecting to: > > 1) The rules of the list, which you are well aware of? > > 2) That the moderators in response to a complaint are talking to the subject of the complaint, as the rules require? > > 3) Or that the moderators have told us that there was a complaint and they are following the rules? > > Yours, > > Joel > >> On 8/23/2022 10:48 PM, Lloyd W wrote: >> you threaten to take action, privately, before taking action, publicly. >> >> is this policing of tone? >> >> Lloyd Wood >> lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>> On 24 Aug 2022, at 09:05, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> Hang on Keith, all they said was they've been in touch with somebody >>> off-list. There's no suppression of discussion that I can see. >>> >>> Regards >>> Brian >>> >>>> On 24-Aug-22 03:39, Keith Moore wrote: >>>> I'm very concerned about this behavior on behalf of the moderators, as >>>> suppressing valuable discussion (even if I disagree with what was >>>> actually said). There is far too much censorship and suppression of >>>> discussion in IETF already, and this has had a very unfortunate effect >>>> on IETF's relevance. I hope the moderators exercise more restraint in >>>> the future. >>>> Keith >>>>> On 8/23/22 10:50, IETF Moderators wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> We wanted to let the list know that the Moderators team for >>>>> ietf@xxxxxxxx (described in more detail at [1]) has been in touch with >>>>> Masataka Ohta off-list concerning their recent messages [2][3]. We >>>>> encourage everyone to review the IETF discussion list charter [4] and >>>>> avoid postings that include uncivil commentary [5]. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Dhruv Dhody on behalf of the Moderators team for ietf@xxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> [1] https://www.ietf.org/how/lists/discussion/ >>>>> [2] >>>>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/mg6pT8Po-QcsB8g6N1z2aFSbqLw/ >>>>> [3] >>>>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/3z7VZDqvfcuWkVS4eYO1vPLH6KI/ >>>>> [4] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9245.html >>>>> [5] >>>>> https://github.com/ietf/Moderators/blob/main/unprofessional-commentary.md >>>>>
