Re: Notification to list from IETF Moderators team

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Lloyd, which of the following are you objecting to:

1) The rules of the list, which you are well aware of?

2) That the moderators in response to a complaint are talking to the subject of the complaint, as the rules require?

3) Or that the moderators have told us that there was a complaint and they are following the rules?

Yours,

Joel

On 8/23/2022 10:48 PM, Lloyd W wrote:
you threaten to take action, privately, before taking action, publicly.

is this policing of tone?

Lloyd Wood
lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx

On 24 Aug 2022, at 09:05, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hang on Keith, all they said was they've been in touch with somebody
off-list. There's no suppression of discussion that I can see.

Regards
   Brian

On 24-Aug-22 03:39, Keith Moore wrote:
I'm very concerned about  this behavior on behalf of the moderators, as
suppressing valuable discussion (even if I disagree with what was
actually said).  There is far too much censorship and suppression of
discussion in IETF already, and this has had a very unfortunate effect
on IETF's relevance.  I hope the moderators exercise more restraint in
the future.
Keith
On 8/23/22 10:50, IETF Moderators wrote:
Hi all,

We wanted to let the list know that the Moderators team for
ietf@xxxxxxxx (described in more detail at [1]) has been in touch with
Masataka Ohta off-list concerning their recent messages [2][3]. We
encourage everyone to review the IETF discussion list charter [4] and
avoid postings that include uncivil commentary [5].

Thanks,
Dhruv Dhody on behalf of the Moderators team for ietf@xxxxxxxx

[1] https://www.ietf.org/how/lists/discussion/
[2]
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/mg6pT8Po-QcsB8g6N1z2aFSbqLw/
[3]
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/3z7VZDqvfcuWkVS4eYO1vPLH6KI/
[4] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9245.html
[5]
https://github.com/ietf/Moderators/blob/main/unprofessional-commentary.md





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