Re: Network Energy Management

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Hi Joel,
Why IETF does not have the skill set to define extensions to OSPF to be more energy efficient ? Example of such extensions is described in this recent paper https://arxiv.org/pdf/2207.00035.

Thanks
Hesham

On Fri, Aug 5, 2022, 4:22 PM Joel Halpern <jmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I can't speak for Fred, but I don't think we as a community even know what "energy efficient protocol" means.  Much less how that trades off against all the other aspects of protocol design.

We do consider message size and frequency when we design protocols.  We consider those aspects along with lots of others.  if that is "designing energy efficient protocols" then we already do so.  On the other hand, design for issues such as to to partially wake up a sleeping device is generally outside our remit and skill set.  And is meaningless for many of our devices.

Yours,

Joel

On 8/5/2022 7:18 PM, Hesham ElBakoury wrote:
Hi Fred,
Do you think  IETF engineers have the skill sets to design energy efficient protocols or enhance existing ones to be more energy efficient ?

Thanks,
Hesham

On Fri, Aug 5, 2022, 1:22 PM Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Echoing a previous post, I’m not sure sustainability is part of our skill set. If we were to try to forcibly add it, I suspect we’d get the same level of response security originally got: “sustainability is not specified in this document”.

Sent using a machine that autocorrects in interesting ways...

> On Aug 5, 2022, at 2:26 AM, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Perhaps it is time for a new mandatory section in RFCs: sustainability?


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