Re: Describing which behavior is appropriate or not (was: Last Call: <draft-eggert-bcp45bis-06.txt> (IETF Discussion List Charter) to Best Current Practice)

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On 03/11/2021 12:54, Bron Gondwana wrote:
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, at 19:24, tom petch wrote:
On 31/10/2021 03:38, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
s/Unprofessional commentary/Uncivil commentary/

Merriam-Webster Online says:

Definition of uncivil

1 : not civilized : barbarous
2 : lacking in courtesy : ill-mannered, impolite uncivil remarks
3 : not conducive to civic harmony and welfare

I slept on this and decided that I prefer professional.  Civil is to me
more social and less, well, professional.  This is about getting the
work done, focussing on technical matters, with reason, logic, avoiding
'ad hominem' and emotional outbursts (as the follow-up e-mails in the
thread may show).

I would consider courteous, respectful, considerate but come back to
professional as the best IMO.

I kind of agree, but I also realise that there's probably some cultural baggage here and civil might translate better in the parts of the world which aren't primarily English-speaking and to people who aren't corporate professionals.

Could well be but then are we seeking to deprecate uncivil or incivility? I see both un- and in- have cropped up in this thread and for me it is incivility that fits better.

Tom Petch

Cheers,

Bron.

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