I feel like that the IETF spends a lot of time posturing about what it can, or can not do, to address diversity. Perhaps a pragmatic approach (since we are engineers) might be to first survey the (apologies for the offence) the diverse and minority participants and ask them what their barriers were to contributing to the IETF and what their barriers, restrictions, or reluctance might be to seeking an IETF leadership role. The results of that might even form a problem statement. Cheers, Terry -- Mobile device, don't expect grammar. > On 28 Jan 2021, at 10:21 am, Fernando Gont <fgont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 27/1/21 20:30, Salz, Rich wrote: >>> For some reason, these two axis [country and company] are not considered when discussing >> diversity. Or, to be put in a different way, diversity seems to be >> discussed only as long as those two axis remain unaffected. >> I think you've been missing a big part of the conversation. > > Possibly. > > > >> Almost every time we talk about meeting times, the US conversation comes up. >> Every time we talk about time required to take a leadership (mainly IESG) position, the time commitment and how it biases toward big companies comes up. > > Are you arguing that geographic and company diversity is part of the diversity the IETF is trying to address? > > Thanks, > -- > Fernando Gont > SI6 Networks > e-mail: fgont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492 > > > >
