Hi, Same disclaimer as before, but this time I'm definitely speaking only for myself. On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 04:03:46PM -0500, Keith Moore wrote:
That sentence sounds more than a little bit hostile itself.
I would appreciate knowing why you think so.
With respect to tooling, this should be a relatively easy test. Are the "bespoke" tools easier to use than whatever tools we might be using otherwise?
"Easier" is surely a matter of where one stands. The point that I was making (and the only point I was trying to make) is that, if you want a more-diverse set of people to join, making the barriers to engagement as high as the IETF does through tools that are really foreign to a lot of people will not help with that. Like github or not (I do not), it is a tool that is familiar to a lot of people, and the more one adapts workflow to things that are familiar to a lot of people the more likely one is to attract such people. That's the network effect in operation, which is of course something that everyone who works in the IETF is familiar with.
But I suspect that underlying the idea that IETF shouldn't use bespoke tools
I think that overstates the point I thought I was making, but I'll assume it was because I made my point inelegantly rather than making myself understood. My apologies. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
