Hi Magnus -
This draft explicitly notes that it only tweaking section 4.14 of 8713,
and that disqualification under section 4.15 still applies.
So even if area groups were considered, you would not qualify as you are
on the IESG.
The draft does not include Area Group chairs, (or Research Group chairs)
in its criteria.
RjS
On 12/18/20 2:08 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
On 19-Dec-20 02:44, Magnus Westerlund wrote:
Hi,
So I have review the document and have some comments and questions.
A) Section 4, Path 2:
Path 2: Has been a Working Group Chair or Secretary within the 3 years prior
to the day the call for nomcom volunteers is sent to the community.
Am I correct that the datatracker database will be the data source used to
asses this criteria? Should that be explicitly mentioned?
Yes, and yes.
Secondly, I think I will show up in this data set when it is run this summer
because I am currently listed as chair for TSVAREA, which is listed as group
but isn't a WG. Has this source of faults been considered?
It isn't in the list of active WGs though, so I don't think it's
a problem. Robert Sparks can comment definitively.
) Section 4:
Path 3: Has been a listed author or editor (on the front page) of at least 2
IETF stream RFCs within the last 5 years prior to the day the call for
nomcom volunteers is sent to the community. An Internet-Draft that has been
approved by the IESG and is in the RFC Editor queue counts the same as a
published RFC (with the relevant date being the date the draft was added to
the RFC editor queue). So the 5 year timer extends back to the date 5 years
before the date when the call for nomcom volunteers is sent to the
community.
As I unfortunately have managed to write a document for various reasons
spent more than 5 years in Missref (C238). So if I interpret this correct,
assuming C238 is published prior to the call for volunteers next year I will
get approved for this, despite that the document are more than 5 years since
they entered the RFC-editor queue. I don't think this needs to be addressed
as it is a corner case and will affect very few. However, having a document
stay in the RFC-editor queue for a long time makes this rule apply for very
long time. I don't know how big the effect of this would be, but we have a
large set of C238 authors that will if this rule is used for the future have
their nomcom eligibility extend for another 5 years, even if they haven't
been active and participating by the publication of C238.
True, and I'm in C325 (178 weeks and counting) so me too! But I agree
that it's a corner case.
Otherwise it looks good.
Thanks
Brian
Cheers
Magnus Westerlund
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This document defines a process experiment under RFC 3933 that
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