Thanks for some facts, Jay. In July 2019, ietf@ had 1781 members and last-call@ didn't exist. In July 2020, ietf@ had 1799 members and last-call@ had 1504 members. Now ietf@ has 1780 members. Let's not panic. (But we don't know how many list members have delivery suspended.) Regards Brian On 18-Aug-20 06:58, Jay Daley wrote: > > >> On 18/08/2020, at 3:40 AM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx <mailto:cabo@xxxxxxx>> wrote: >> >> On 2020-08-17, at 17:06, Eliot Lear <lear=40cisco.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lear=40cisco.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>> >>> now that people are leaving >> >> Quick unscientific observation: >> >> We recently went from about 1820 subscribers (Aug 13) to 1780 (Aug 17), so we lost about 2 %. >> Unfortunately, I didn’t think to keep older data. > > https://www.ietf.org/status-report/ietf-progress-report.html > > Jay > >> >> Grüße, Carsten >> > > -- > Jay Daley > IETF Executive Director > jay@xxxxxxxx <mailto:jay@xxxxxxxx> >