On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 5:18 AM Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Rather, the departure of many > prominent IETF contributors from the membership list of ietf@xxxxxxxx has > placed us in a (or, perhaps, excacerbated an existing) situation where the > membership of what is nominally the "general IETF discussion list" is not > representative of the IETF community. As someone who is, at times, charged > with assessing IETF consensus, I feel that this calls into question the > utility of the ietf@xxxxxxxx list for determining consensus. Personally, I > now have significant doubts that the results of discussion on ietf@xxxxxxxx > will reflect IETF consensus. Some people who care about IETF have left the list. Some people apparently started blocking emails from other participants (which increases the risk of pure technical, protocol development discussions to happen in isolated bubbles of life-minded people). It's very sad to see how, paradoxically, the discussion about inclusiveness and diversity ended up being harmful for diversity and inclusiveness at IETF. -- SY, Jen Linkova aka Furry
