Hi Ben, At 10:42 AM 14-08-2020, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> The question is, what to do? The IETF way would seem to be to write up several drafts with various proposals and solicit comments. Options could include: - just shut it down
The ietf@ list is a reflection of Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, etc.
- rate-limit all posters
That is technically possible. RFC 6729 was written for this mailing list. However, it was never implemented.
- create a new role specifically tasked with deescalation and consensus-building
The following is a definition of a word: "If you say that someone is [removed], you mean that they are not easily upset by criticism or unpleasantness." RFC 7154 was rewritten to address the "unpleasantness" part. The new role option was tested previously: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/bozkj693bayoU_tj3aH27_dmje0/
- your idea here
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