Les, Thanks for being accommodating. Regards, Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg@xxxxxxxxx> > Sent: 17 June 2020 15:57 > To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@xxxxxxxxx>; Peter Psenak > <ppsenak=40cisco.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@xxxxxxx> > Cc: lsr@xxxxxxxx; draft-ietf-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse.all@xxxxxxxx; ops- > dir@xxxxxxxx; last-call@xxxxxxxx; Scott O. Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: RE: [Last-Call] Opsdir telechat review of draft-ietf-ospf-te- > link-attr-reuse-14 > > Rob - > > IS-IS draft currently states: > > "User Defined Application Identifier Bits have no relationship to > Standard Application Identifier Bits and are not managed by IANA or > any other standards body." > > (OSPF has this text also.) > > I am happy enough to include an additional statement similar to the OSPF > text below in Section 4. > > Scott can speak for himself of course - but not clear to me that this > really satisfies him since his comment was on the OSPF draft that already > had this text. > > And not clear that this would make Ben (copied) any more comfortable since > his concern (clarified in his most recent post) is about discussing > allocation of the UDA bit space. > > But I will add the text - it makes the two drafts closer in content - > which has been an ongoing goal during the review process. > > Thanx. > > Les > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@xxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:09 AM > > To: Peter Psenak <ppsenak=40cisco.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Les Ginsberg > > (ginsberg) <ginsberg@xxxxxxxxx> > > Cc: lsr@xxxxxxxx; draft-ietf-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse.all@xxxxxxxx; ops- > > dir@xxxxxxxx; last-call@xxxxxxxx; Scott O. Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx> > > Subject: RE: [Last-Call] Opsdir telechat review of draft-ietf-ospf-te- > link-attr- > > reuse-14 > > > > Hi Les, > > > > Would you be opposed to adding text similar to the OSPF paragraph below > to > > the ISIS draft? > > > > I think that the OSPF draft does a better job of first introducing UDAs. > Having > > just looked at the ISIS draft, it does seem to somewhat assume that the > > reader will just know what they are ... > > > > I understand that this should resolve Scott's concerns. > > > > Regards, > > Rob > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: last-call <last-call-bounces@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Scott O. > Bradner > > > Sent: 15 June 2020 11:17 > > > To: Peter Psenak <ppsenak=40cisco.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Cc: lsr@xxxxxxxx; draft-ietf-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse.all@xxxxxxxx; > ops- > > > dir@xxxxxxxx; last-call@xxxxxxxx > > > Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Opsdir telechat review of draft-ietf-ospf-te- > > > link-attr-reuse-14 > > > > > > that looks just fine to me - thanks > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > On Jun 15, 2020, at 5:14 AM, Peter Psenak > > > <ppsenak=40cisco.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Scott. > > > > > > > > there is a following text in the OSPF draft: > > > > > > > > "On top of advertising the link attributes for standardized > > > > applications, link attributes can be advertised for the purpose of > > > > applications that are not standardized. We call such an > > > > application a "User Defined Application" or "UDA". These > > > > applications are not subject to standardization and are outside of > > > > the scope of this specification." > > > > > > > > Feel free to propose an additional text if you feel above is not > > > sufficient. > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 14/06/2020 21:22, Scott Bradner via Datatracker wrote: > > > >> Reviewer: Scott Bradner > > > >> Review result: Ready > > > >> I have reviewed the latest version of this document and my earlier > > > issues have > > > >> been resolved at least well enough for teh document to be > considered > > > ready for > > > >> publication. > > > >> that said I still do not see where "User Defined Application > > > Identifier" is > > > >> actually cleanly defined - one can read carefully and determine but > it > > > would be > > > >> easier on the reader to just say that it is a field that can be > used to > > > >> indicate the use of one or more non-standard applications within > some > > > scope > > > >> (network, subnet, link, organization, ... not sure what scopes are > > > meaningful > > > >> here but it does not seem that a User Defined Application > Identifier > > > would be a > > > >> global (between network operators) value > > > >> Scott > > > > > > > > -- > > > > last-call mailing list > > > > last-call@xxxxxxxx > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call > > > > > > -- > > > last-call mailing list > > > last-call@xxxxxxxx > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call -- last-call mailing list last-call@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call