Re: Consultation on *revised* IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan 2020

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On 4/06/2020, at 2:26 AM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Hiya,

I re-read [3] and it is much improved, thanks.

I do have a few remaining comments:

- The word "privacy" doesn't appear. That needs to be fixed,
to provide the proper balance vs. things like: "Sufficient
high-quality data on participants their activities,
motivations, expectations, etc to support an evidence-led
culture." I'd say the way to do that is to make a generic
statement that the LLC aims to honor the privacy expectations
of the IETF community - those vary a lot but we are and should
be a picky crowd when it comes to this topic. (Sorry for not
noticing this in my earlier review.)

Added as https://github.com/ietf-llc/strategy-2020-consultation/issues/42   Note, that this needs to be done in reference to our Privacy Statement (as the applicable policy) and that has a strong focus on openness as well as privacy.


- I can't see how all the stuff about "participant journey"
isn't either waffle or over-reach, e.g. if "Fully documented
participant journey" meant that the someone thinks IETFers are
going to only follow paths set-out in such a document, that's
silly and over-reach. If it doesn't mean that then what's it
for? I suggest removing the term and replacing each occurrence
with whatever is really meant in each case (or with nothing).
(And then re-reviewing.)

My answer may unintentionally come across as rude.  

It appears that you are unfamiliar with the concept of user journeys (which, as Ekr has pointed out, is renamed to "participant journey" to be more IETF specific).  These are an important tool in understanding how people interact with systems, whether those systems are organisational or technological.  The details of a user journey are quite simple, as explained in the strategy:

"a map of the different stages of participation (e.g. newcomer, leadership), at what stages people start their participation in the IETF, how they transition between them and at what stages they end their participation.  "

I do not think it is appropriate that we are limited in our strategy to concepts that every reader understands.


- Saying "LLC strategy closely aligned with the strategic
objectives of IESG, IRSG and IAB" still indicates a fundamental
misunderstanding IMO. Those bodies cannot, collectively, have
an agreed set of such "strategic objectives" at any given
moment in the sense meant here. ISTM that baking that error
into the LLC's strategy is likely to lead to over-reach as
the LLC "extrapolates" from something that can never exist.
I'd suggest just deleting the offending statements would be
best.

First, I should note that the term "collectively" is something you have added and not something that comes form this document.  This is about the LLC aligning with the strategic objectives of those bodies, if they have them, and in whatever form they come.

Second, the IESG for one has been looking at strategic planning for some time


If you want it formally recognised that those bodies cannot have strategic objectives, or cannot have collective strategic objectives, then you should really be taking that point of view to them and asking them to affirm that in a statement rather than trying to impose that view in a second order document such as this.

Jay



Cheers,
S.






On 03/06/2020 04:04, IETFExecutive Director wrote:
The IETF Administration LLC began a consultation on its Draft
Strategic Plan 2020 [1] on 4 May 2020 and in response to the issues
raised so far [2], has developed a revised draft [3] with some
substantial changes.  Consultation on this revised draft will
continue until Monday 15 June 2020 and may be extended longer if
required.

The strategic plan is made up of the following elements, all of which
are being presented for comment:

1. Linkages.  The organisations and communities that the IETF LLC is
linked to and how that linkage is the top-level driver of the IETF
LLC strategy. 2. Mission.  This is a literal definition of what the
IETF LLC does.  The mission rarely changes in the lifetime of the
company. 3. Values.  These define how the company behaves as it
follows its mission. These may change over time to reflect broader
social changes. 4. Strategic Goals.  The highest priority goals of
the IETF LLC.  These may be short-, medium- or long-term goals or a
mix.  These are the big picture of what the IETF LLC is aiming to do
in the next 3-5 years and so are the key setting that the board
expects the company to follow. 5. Strategic Transformations.  These
detail the changes that need to be made in order to achieve the
strategic goals.   Each transformation details the current state and
the desired state to transform into. These transformations should be
achievable within 1-3 years.

If you have any comments or questions then you can submit those by
any of the following methods:

* Raising an issue on the Github repository * Direct to me at
exec-director@xxxxxxxx * Direct to the IETF LLC Board (not including
me) at llc-board-only@xxxxxxxx * To the ietf@xxxxxxxx list

Please rememeber to comment on the revised draft [3] not the
original.

[1]
https://github.com/ietf-llc/strategy-2020-consultation/blob/master/DRAFT%20Strategic%20Plan%202020.md


[2]  https://github.com/ietf-llc/strategy-2020-consultation/issues
[3]
https://github.com/ietf-llc/strategy-2020-consultation/blob/latest-updates-from-consultation/DRAFT%20Strategic%20Plan%202020.md

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IETF Executive Director
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