Michael Thomas <mat@cisco.com> writes: > Eric Rescorla writes: > > Michael Thomas <mat@cisco.com> writes: > > > > > Eric Rescorla writes: > > > > What applications that people want to run--and the IT managers would > > > > want to enable--are actually inhibited by NAT? It seems to me that > > > > most of the applications inconvenienced by NAT are ones that IT > > > > managers would want to screen off anyway. > > > > > > Uh, have you paid no attention to voice? It > > > qualifies on both counts. We get complaints from > > > customers each and every day... the ones that are > > > lucky enough to figure out that NAT is why their > > > IP phone doesn't work that is. > > > > As I said, these would be screened off by corporate firewalls in most > > cases anyway. > > That there are also issues with firewalls is > entirely beside the point. And firewall traversal > using a VPN is a trivial and deployed solution to > the firewall traversal problem. And you can use similar solutions to traverse NATs, albeit with slightly similar technology. -Ekr -- [Eric Rescorla ekr@rtfm.com] http://www.rtfm.com/