Not at all. If you want to address denial of service issues you need protocol enforcement points. The INTERnet is a bidging architecture between networks. Lets put asside the dogma and build the infrastucture the users need. -----Original Message----- From: Keith Moore Sent: Wed Jun 18 09:47:42 2003 To: Hallam-Baker, Phillip Cc: moore@cs.utk.edu; pbaker@verisign.com; Ronald.vanderPol@rvdp.org; aarsenau@bbn.com; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: myth of the great transition (was US Defense Department forma lly adopts IPv6) > I really wish that the IETF > had designed a decent NAT box spec that's an oxymoron. the basic premis of NAT is fundamnetally broken.