Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu writes: > On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:19:12 PDT, Eric Rescorla said: > > > You've got it absolutely backwards. The fact that the NAT breaks applications > > that I don't want to run anyway is a FEATURE, not a bug. > > And the fact that NAT breaks things that you DO want to run is a <?> I'm not convinced that this is happening... if it is, why isn't there a market reaction. > > > And unfortunately, a lot of the Just Does Not Work stuff are applications > > > like H.323 and VOIP that Joe Sixpack actually *might* be interested in. > > > > Ah, the eternal lament of the technocrat who can't understand why the > > customers don't want what he knows is so obviously good for them. > > No, the lament of a technocrat who can't deploy things that customers DO want > because NAT breaks them. > > Find a user. See if they'd be interested in video or voice over IP. Watch > them say "ooh... that sounds cool". Then tell them it would be unreliable > and you could only use it to talk to other users some of the time, because > a lot of users are on these things called NATs, and watch enthusiasm wane. Given that there are workarounds for these, I find this explanation pretty unlikely. More likely is that people's revealed preference is that they don't actually want this stuff. -Ekr -- [Eric Rescorla ekr@rtfm.com] http://www.rtfm.com/