michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us ("Michel Py") writes: > Paul, I'm curious: why are you wasting your time with this? Any > withdrawals from not fighting it on a daily basis? because several years ago when iesg commissioned a wg to study the spam issue and decide whether ietf had a role, the carefully worded answer was "no". i thought this answer was short-sighted or wrong-headed or both. c'mon guys & dolls, smtp and the model behind/beneath it are failing to address the need for universal batch communication. we fixed the encoding problems (trying to fit things into a 990-by-7 box was hard without mime) and it only took four and a half years of bitchfesting and the results have been nothing less than spectacular (in that i don't get uuencoded tarballs from nextstep users any more.) on april 28 of this year, aol/microsoft/yahoo publically teamed up to fight spam (since statistically speaking, it is universally launched by their collective customers and aimed at their collective customers.) see http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2003/0428aolmsya.html for the announcement. does anyone here think this will solve the problem for anybody, even the customers of those three customers? i'm wasting my time because i want this problem looked at more broadly. -- Paul Vixie