On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, vinton g. cerf wrote: > both parties requested summary judgment Yes. And almost all of ICANN's was denied, and almost all of Karl's granted. Your point being? [...] > no, ICANN would have preferred to stick with the procedures that were > established. However it seems appropriate to point out that the principal > difference between the procedures adopted by ICANN's audit committee and > the procedures recommended by the court differed primarily in the manner > in which differences of opinion as to the releasability of material > considered confidential by ICANN would be settled. ICANN recommended an To the extent this is an accurate identification of the "principle" difference, it is also one where the differnce between the two views is substantial, and ICANN had its head handed to it on a plate. At INET, I tried to warn you this would happen. You clearly had been advised otherwise. That was very bad advice. You were so bought into it that you wouldn't even take the time to listen to *why* I thought what I thought. That was not prudent. > internal procedure that, if not agreed by the director wishing to release > them, would then be settled in court. Your proposal, that was recommended > with one modification by the court, required ICANN to seek judicial remedy > if given a 10 day warning, it disagreed with the director's proposal to > release. In your original proposal you suggested a 7 day period. This is what we in the legal profession would call a sop for ICANN. If your lawyers are telling you differently, I submit you are again badly advised. > Karl, restrictions are still there. If a director wishes to release > information held to be confidential by ICANN, ICANN has a 10 day period in > which to seek judicial review and restraint. At least that is the way I > understand the order. True. More importantly, a director has --and has at all relevant times had -- an independent, personal, duty to act in his best understanding of what's best for the entity. That is one which the law doesn't allow him to delegate. Or sign away, as ICANN proposed. > Karl, even under the procedures adopted by ICANN to accommodate full review > while protecting confidential information allowed you and any director full > access to corporate records. The court did NOT validate unlimited ability of > any director to unilaterally release confidential information. In no case did Nor did Karl assert that non-existent unlimited right to release anything. Rather he asserted his stautory right to exercise independent judgment, rather than having it illegally constrained by a proceedure adopted in violation of both law and ICANN's by-laws. Doesn't that finding bother you? Illegal. Violation of by-laws. Doesn't it make you wonder whether other things you have been told by the same people who drafted this illegal document are within the by-laws might not be? Wouldn't it be prudent to worry about that now? Once bitten, twice shy? The "unlimited right" you mention was never part of the case. Your lawyers tried to create this straw man. It was clearly falsified by the evidence, and the judge didn't waste any time on it. If this is what your lawyers told you the case is about, as opposed to it merely being a desperation litigation tactic ("blacken the enemey"), which is what it looked like, then you have been very badly advised. I suggest you read Karl's pleadings. Or have an outside lawyer not affiliated with this proceeding, or with your current advisors' law firm, read them. And also the trial transcript. Then have a very serious and frank discussion with your professional advisors. > ICANN seek to restrict actual access to documents but only to assure proper > assessment of the releasability of anything considered confidential. > The law provides for this already in the duties that constrain directors. Karl went the extra mile before the suit was filed, offering 7 days notice before disclosure. The law does not require that (although it's a sensible and prudent thing for a director to offer under these circumstances). The court said, 'make it 10'. > > >Under the court's order ICANN must start delivering materials by tomorrow, > >August 2 - a mere 20 months after I first requested them. > > > some material is not deliverable but only viewable/copyable at the ICANN site. I trust that ICANN will make every effort to be cooperative and to implement both the letter and the spirit of the court's order. It would be nice to hear you say that. -- Please visit http://www.icannwatch.org A. Michael Froomkin | Professor of Law | froomkin@law.tm U. Miami School of Law, P.O. Box 248087, Coral Gables, FL 33124 USA +1 (305) 284-4285 | +1 (305) 284-6506 (fax) | http://www.law.tm -->It's very hot here.<--