Vint, IMHO, vendor submitted proprietary information deserves protection against disclosure to the public, but not to directors of the organi- zation, whereas personnel information, except in very narrow, limited cases deserves protection against disclosure even to a director. As I see it, they ain't the same thing, ergo, different rules apply. Jim "vinton g. cerf" <vinton.g.cerf@wcom.com>@ietf.org on 08/01/2002 11:04:28 PM Sent by: owner-ietf@ietf.org To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> cc: ietf <ietf@ietf.org> Subject: Re: Correcting an incorrect assertion. Was: Re: delegation mechanism... ICANN may receive information from vendors, for example, that is considered proprietary - that deserves protection as much as personnel information. An enormous amount of ICANN material is published on the web - more, I imagine, than a great many other non-profit organizations. vint At 06:46 PM 8/1/2002 -0700, Randy Bush wrote: >these are details of yet another cat fight into which icann has >wandered in its ever-unsatisfied desire for pool-pah. i was trying >to look above that. what fiscal or procedural matters of icann >(other than personnel data, which are usually well-protected >anyway) preclude simple transparency? why don't you just simply >publish the stuff at a detailed level on the web [0]? Vint Cerf SVP Architecture & Technology WorldCom 22001 Loudoun County Parkway, F2-4115 Ashburn, VA 20147 703 886 1690 (v806 1690) 703 886 0047 fax