Re: how to take minutes

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On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Scott Brim wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 05:54:25PM -0700, Randy Presuhn allegedly wrote:
> > Hi -
> > 
> > Relatively few WG minute takers pay much
> > attention to the Mortimer/Agnes/Duane bullet in
> > http://www.ietf.org/instructions/minutes.html
> > 
> > Is it time to update the web page to reflect actual practice?
> > 
> > Might it be easier to get people to take minutes if they
> > realized that we're not asking for blow-by-blow transcripts?
> > 
> > Some of these meeting notes that capture (some of) the words
> > but miss the point of the discussion.
> 
> That last point is a useful one, but when I can't be at a meeting I
> strongly prefer blow-by-blow transcripts, even babbling, over just
> results.  I want Meeting Notes with enough detail that I can pick out
> the motivations and other nuances.  "Minutes", for the Proceedings,
> should not exclude them.  

I haven't written minutes for any IETF meeting myself, so perhaps I 
shouldn't comment.  But on the page:

'They should not follow a "Mortimer said," then "Agnes said," then "Duane
said," format, nor should they contain a detailed list of changes to a
document. While these forms may be helpful to the folks who actually
attend the sessions, they are less helpful to those who have a more
general interest in the groups' activities.'

This makes an implicit assumption that anyone reading minutes is only 
"generally interested" in the group's activities.

I thought attendance in meetings for w.g. members was not supposed to be
necessary in the IETF?

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Netcore Oy                   not those you stumble over and fall"
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