On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 03:56:33PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Greg KH wrote: > > >What dependencies? Run time? Build time? And why are dependencies > >bad? Do you have no ram in your system for them? > > The configure scripts require packages that are not in LFS. Like what? Can't you add them? > We do not want to add them just to satisfy a systemd build that we > don't want. However creating a custom Makefile to build udev from the > current systemd sources was not particularly hard. So you don't offer systemd to any LFS user either? > >Personally, I think running a Linux system without systemd is a deadend, > >but hey, what do I know about these things? :) > > I understand that big distros only want to support one methodology, No, that's not why they are switching to systemd. > but in my opinion systemd is a solution only needed by a very small > percentage of users. I don't think you really understand what systemd offers. I don't know anyone who has used it that has wanted to switch back. Also, it solves numerous problems that people have been having for years. And further, it's becoming a requirement for large industry groups that use Linux, because they too want what it offers. That's not to say you don't want it, that's fine, I understand, but to deride it by saying only a small number of users want it is disingenuous. > It is quite opaque for new users trying to understand the boot > process. The 100+ man pages are not descriptive enough? :) > We don't use an initrd for the same reason. That's fine, but then how do you support a separate /usr partition? And handle kernels built for a wide range of systems? > The nice thing about Linux is that one size does not have to fit all. Sure, and that's fine. But I think you are shortchanging your users here. Again, just my opinion. Best of luck, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-hotplug" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
