If voip is dead, h.323 will go down with it. Real-Time communications are and should be built using protocols that are much easier to code. Skype is not the only one who did it, take the example of Cisco Unified Communications or Microsoft OCS/LCS (based on sip). There are already companies creating OCS/LCS federations with PSTN integration, e.g. www.interouteone.com I'm not sure Gnugk shouldn go down this road, it's far more difficult to code complex apps with h.323 than with any other protocol. Anyway, this discution got out of topic, I was just making a comparison, like Jan requested, between GNUGK and another commercial switch. I admire your efforts to do presence with h.323 and your P2pnat media works like a charm. Regarding my statement about X-lite and PacPhone, I know X-Lite is SIP and it's the market trend, but for some (like me) the GUI is very important in a product. If there would be a h.323 version of X-lite using p2pnat media, I would imediately switch to that instead of the Sip solution. Cheers, Lucian -----Original Message----- From: openh323gk-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:openh323gk-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Simon Horne Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:33 PM To: GNU Gatekeeper Users Subject: Re: GnuGK vs MERA MVTS Lucian > -----Original Message----- > Lucian Gheorghe > Also, Simon's PacPhone is a fantastic product and it works with GNUGK > perfectly. All it needs is better graphics which is probably why there are > more users implementing (* and X-lite) than (Gnugk and PacPhone). Thanks, the big difference is X-Lite is SIP and PacPhone is H.323. Side by side it will lose out regardless whether it has the better graphics, that just the nature of the industry and really doesn't worry me, the purpose of PacPhone is not to better than X-Lite, it is being developed to suit a particular need in the market. Since joining the project in 2006, I have never looked at GnuGk has beening a carrier grade anything although I have done some small carrier deployments with it. I'm definitely focused on the future, and IMHO for GnuGK to become more relevent it has to focus on features and applications and not just VoIP termination. NAT/firewall support and a broader range of routing policies (ENUM,SRV,RDS) makes it more versatile and scalable. Work is still continuing with P2Pnat Media (Nat Traversal without proxying media) and a scalable intergatekeeper presence system due for the v2.2.8 release. I gave a talk a few months back called "VoIP is Dead. Long Live Real-Time Communications". The crux of the talk was about the need to be more than VoIP. Application sharing, multipoint video conferencing, file transfer, Presence, directory services, text and multimedia messaging, media encryption, NAT traversal. All the things that were promised at the dawn of VoIP but (with the exception for skype) have never been delivered. My desire is for this to become a reality and GnuGk is a key component of that. I think you have to also look at the great work Jan is doing with call bridging (GnuGk initiated calls), the new SQL routing policy (for least cost routing), the call fallover and ACD support and you can see that GnuGk is a lot more than a poor man's SBC. IMHO so what if GnuGk is not a carrier switch, To me it's a lot more than that and a very versatile, scalable free piece of software. My 2 cents. Simon ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace _______________________________________________________ Posting: mailto:Openh323gk-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Archive: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=openh323gk-users Unsubscribe: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openh323gk-users Homepage: http://www.gnugk.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace _______________________________________________________ Posting: mailto:Openh323gk-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Archive: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=openh323gk-users Unsubscribe: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openh323gk-users Homepage: http://www.gnugk.org/
