Dalibor Topic wrote: >On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:37:17PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: > > >> >> >>>>>>If you link native to a GPL VM, then that code must also be GPL, no? >>>>>>That is an absolute requirement in the embedded world... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>That is true. But running java bytecode in with a GPL vm and loading JNI >>>>>libs during that doenst render all the java/native code you run with the >>>>>VM to GPL. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>and this context does not apply to CLDC... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>I don't know much about Maemo. Perhaps you should be more clear on what >>>you really need/want to do. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Maemo is the platform for the 770. It doesn't have Java support yet, but >>when it does it sure can manage CDC, which goes your way, but still, the >>big guys will want a clear picture, and in the past LGPL has been a go, >>and GPL a no-go. >> >> > >If that was true, they would not have used a GPLd Linux kernel for the >maemo. > >The big guys can have a clear picture: using a GPLd VM is not different >from using a GPLd kernel in their device. > > Well, I never heard it put it this way, and I cannot say that I agree. But really, why is there such a lack of clarity in these matters? Is there no way to clarity once and for all? > > >>Are you saying SableVM is using FUD tactics? They seem to be believe >>strongly in their position... >> >> > >Believing in something does not make it true. If you want legal advice, >ask a lawyer. If you want to know how someone interprets the GPL on their code, >ask them. If you want to know how the SableVM devs believe the GPL works on >other people's code they 'compete' with, you can have that, too. If you >want to know how the GPL works, you can ask the FSF. > >If you want to know, you ask. If you want to believe, then there is no >point in asking as you've already figured out what answers you want, and >just need a rational justification for them, like some 'legal FAQ' on >some obscure web site. > >Chose whatever works best for you. :) > > I don't see things like this. I think it is the ones with the most to lose who have the most influential and relevant opinion. That's Nokia.