On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 22:31 +0200, Les Paul wrote: > 2013/4/10 Marco Scannadinari <marco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > "Very, very few users are using \"help\" and \"settings\" option" > > How do you know this? > I put this as an example: > http://www.uie.com/brainsparks/2011/09/14/do-users-change-their-settings/ > They made an experiment, and they concluded that "Less than 5% of the > users we surveyed had changed any settings at all. More than 95% had > kept the settings in the exact configuration that the program Windows user == LINUX desktop user ? > installed in.". And, as I told, I'm pretty sure "help" is even less > used. When was the last time you used the help from an application? > Applications are (or should be) developed to be self-explanatory. And > for those which are too complex for that (Blender, for example), > people just google it. <rant> Really??????? You hit an internet search engine *BEFORE* using help??? That is a colossal waste of time. Actual documentation is much better than sorting to a blast of internet swill; google is not your friend, it is a massive time waste. Sorry, but using Help over Search is *crazy*. I have users who did this - they drive people bat @&&@*#@ crazy, they spend all kinds of time trying to 'figure out' things that are plainly and clearly documented - and the documentation is *correct* and appropriate to their version, rather than the rambling speculations of what some internet dweeb posted *years ago* to some forum. Ugh. </rant> > But I'm not talking about removing these > options. I'm talking about moving them to another place, where people > that need them will still have them, But why? It is an established convention, why mess with it. > Precisely I'm talking about moving "About", "Help", "Settings" and > How do you know that Alt+F4 closes the window? You just learned it at > some point. I like the idea of having a close button next to the icon > too, but it could look kind of ugly or weird. On the left side of the > icon, you could close a window accidentally trying to click the dash > menu. On the right side, the title bar size depends on the title of > the window. -1 Close button. Close can be destructive, it should be a very deliberate application specific action. > > Software is not like hardware, or a chair, in that you will not need a > > manual. Each peice of software is different and is not neccesarily > > familiar to each user, so they will probably need a manual or help. Yep > case. Anybody needs to use Banshee or MPlayer to look for help. They > are pretty intuitive. Yeah, ok. But personally I don't much care about those applications, they are a waste of a desktop. Real applications like spreadsheets, media *editors*, mathmatical tools, data analysis tools, IDEs, etc... will need documentation [aka help]. What they do cannot be 'simplified'. _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list
