2013/4/3 Trond Husø <tr-huso@xxxxxxxxx>: > OK. You are not seeing my point at all. Maybe it is my fault, English is not my native language. Very, very few users are using "help" and "settings" option. Gnome Shell has included both on a list on the title bar, that makes that the field "Exit" changes its position from one application to another (which is an option used by 100% of the users). For example, "Exit" in Nautilus 3.6 is the 8th option, the 2nd option in Font Viewer, the 7th in Gnome Documents and the 1st one on all non-gnome applications. You can solve it just moving these to a general application, and redistributing the rest of the options. This way, applications could be closed easily. Maybe with a double click on the title bar, which is always on the same place, and allow you to close several windows without moving the mouse. But you cannot implement that if the title bar is full of options. It would run the risk of being closed accidentally. You can see how iOS or Android applications are evolving. Options are hidden, and it isn't neccesary a help option. They are made to be self-explanatory, and complexity is hidden to the common user. Do you need a manual attached to your DVD player permanently? No, you just need it, just in case. But the manual will go to a drawer full of other manuals which you won't ever use. And you know where are them all. I don't think it would bother to those who want to use this options (and they will do it just occasionally), but if so, I think is a little (very little) sacrifice in favor of most users. Going to the dash and close all the applications from there is inefficient. You have to move the mouse all over the screen, and windows move from its place as there are less windows opened. Alt+F4 is not even an good shotcut. But most users just want to use the mouse, or even (each day more and more) just to touch the screen. The "X" button has been replaced by a more inefficient system, and I think my idea could improve that system. _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list