On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 22:27 +0800, Ma Xiaojun wrote: > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Olav Vitters <olav@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > That is not what he's saying. The application/game should include a > > desktop file. If it doesn't, it is a bug. > A desktop file with a JAR file? > I don't understand how to package it properly. Java applications are packaged in MSIs, DEBs, and RPMs just like everything else. Those packages include a variety of 'support' files. "Users" do not use JAR files, they use applications that are installed. > > You seem to like to compare things with Windows. I don't recall having > > to create a shortcut to *any* Windows game in at least the last 10 > > years. > That's your usage pattern. > There are some people who have whole desktop filled with shortcuts. > Well, I understand GNOME Shell has different pattern. > > So GNOME is bad because it does not include a device manager? I'm > > totally not understanding what you're after. Various things are not > > included in GNOME, that does not make anything bad. > I'm not saying GNOME is bad. > I'm saying that you probably cannot use GNOME without terminal. > Another use case, what would you do when facing a new USB WiFi adapter > not working out-of-the-box? You'd debug it! But that is *NOT* the task of the Desktop Environment. GNOME does nothing to *get in the way of* you debugging a piece of non-functional hardware. Supporting hardware is not GNOME's task. ... I don't know how to say that any clearer. > Master Adam Tauno Williams said we should only use lspci once :-) Yes, I did. And I'm right. Running it multiple times is going to tell you what? cut-n-paste the output into gedit, Tomboy, bijiben, whatever... gather and organize all the information you need to debug something. That is how GOOD debugging is done. -- Adam Tauno Williams GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list
