On Sat, 2013-02-16 at 07:43 +0000, Harry Kashouli wrote: > This guy is an example of someone who should shut up, listen to his > users, and never ever try championing his cause until he decides to > get off his ego. Pot, kettle? Congrats on being such a positive voice. > There are a myriad of user comments ever since Gnome 3 came out, and > even during its alpha/beta phases. Hell, I myself also had concerns > during the beta, but I liked the original ideas. But then Gnome > developers started removing feature after feature. As a developer [not of GNOME]... this is how development is done. And many features have come back [GOA, and a variety of other services...]. This is how development works; you have limited resources, so you need to limit your scope. > Instead, he dismisses all the comments/feedback by saying that "these > people just like to hate the world", Having been on the Internet from the '80s and in Open Source since the LINUX kernel was pre-1.... HE IS RIGHT! The drive-by nattering is incessant; who cares, tune them out. There are ways to influence a project, ... those ways take work. If someone comments on my BLOG, and disappears, yeah, I don't care. That is simply healthy. If you submit a patch to one of my projects - then I love you can care allot. > Gnome 3 is not the best desktop, Using it right now, seems pretty amazing. AND yes I'm using it on multiple large displays, not a "tablet". Slick, stable, fast, and productive. > and it is not the worst desktop. Nope. > What it is, is a desktop and group of people that refuse to see > potential improvements to a product that could blow everything else > out of the water. Every version is clearly improved over the previous one. GNOME 3.6 was a real milestone. The extension system is amazing. > Instead, they focused from he start to the tablet fad, BULL BULL BULL BULL BULL BULL BULL BULL $&#&#$#. This is a tired and exhausted meme. GNOME 3 is meant to work on tablets I suppose - NOTHING WHAT SO EVER limits its practicality in other work environments. There are [yes, it is true!] some memes that carry over from the mobile/tablet space to the desktop. But there is nothing that limits GNOMEs use on a laptop/desktop. I reject this notion of GNOME-is-for-tables utterly and completely. Anyone who says this, simply, has not used GNOME. They are drive-bying and I dismiss their argument. > and now that the desktop is not dead, Nope, the desktop is alive and well. > they shot themselves in the foot. They constantly remove features and > claim that users can add them back by editing files. Really??? What / where? I have not edited any files to configure my desktop in YEARS. I would consider that epic-fail. > Had they simply minimalised the initial experience, and > enabled/disabled said options via the GUI, no one would have cared > much. Eh? Sounds like what they did to me. > Apparently, as he says, they could not put all the options in the UI, > because "it would be impossible". I agree with him - massive configuration panes are awful. > Well, then the KDE developers must be gods; they seem to manage it. And it is a mess. You should go use KDE and be happy there > And then he says that he works at SUSE; the Linux distribution/company > that has embraced KDE almost more than any other for a very long time. Oh, whatever. I work for a forklift maintenance company, so? > Vincent Untz, the man almost as insane as certain kernel developers > that force their personal beliefs. You are a bully of the worst kind. Bullying through contribution, I recommend you try it. > You force your opinion on people's daily experiences with their > computer, Actually, the choose to install it. > instead of allowing them to choose their way. They choose what to install. > Gnome 3 was not ready, BULL. Then how is it that I use it 50+ hours a day? > just like KDE4 was not ready, I don't know or care about KDE, so can't comment. I like to stick to things I know about. -- Adam Tauno Williams GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list
