On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 10:11:19AM -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > > We're developers ourselves, and we interact with new developers that we > > want to help. But there are masses of people[1] building Git who are > > _not_ developers, and want the default to be as robust as possible. > > They're probably not going to show up in this thread. > > > > -Peff > > > > [1] I actually wonder how large that mass is. Clearly there are many > > orders of magnitude more users than there are developers. But I have > > no idea what percentage of them build from source versus using > > somebody else's binary package. > > Relatedly, we need to think about the incentives these defaults > create. Personally, I want *more* naive users to be building from > source, because then they are better able to test recent versions, > bisect, test my patches, etc. > > As I hinted in my earlier reply, I think it would be best to try some > basic things to make DEVELOPER more visible first. If that fails, > then we can revisit how to make this more drastic change in a way that > minimizes the harm (and I am not sure yet that that is possible). Yes, I agree very much with both of those paragraphs. -Peff