On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 06:40:14PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > Responding to the thread in general, perhaps people would like this more > if we turned DEVELOPER=1 DEVOPTS=no-error on by default? > > That's basically why I added it in 99f763baf5 ("Makefile: add a DEVOPTS > to suppress -Werror under DEVELOPER", 2018-04-14), because I wanted the > abilty to have verbose informative output without the build dying on > some older systems / compilers. > > It's fine and understandable if you're someone who's just building a > package on some older system if you get a bunch of compiler warnings, > but more annoying if you have to dig into how to disable a default > -Werror. I had the impression that DEVELOPER=1 was allowed to set flags that old versions might not even know about. Hence they might actually barf, even without -Werror. Maybe that's better since the introduction of the detect-compiler script, though. I do think we may have a skewed view of the population on this list. We're developers ourselves, and we interact with new developers that we want to help. But there are masses of people[1] building Git who are _not_ developers, and want the default to be as robust as possible. They're probably not going to show up in this thread. -Peff [1] I actually wonder how large that mass is. Clearly there are many orders of magnitude more users than there are developers. But I have no idea what percentage of them build from source versus using somebody else's binary package.