On Sat, Aug 04 2018, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Duy Nguyen <pclouds@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 8:11 AM Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> My main concern is not about them but about other >>> people building from source in order to run (instead of to develop) >>> Git, and by extension, the people they go to for help when it doesn't >>> work. I have lots of bitter experience of -Werror being a support >>> headache and leading to bad workarounds when someone upgrades their >>> compiler and the build starts failing due to a new warning it has >>> introduced. >> >> Even old compilers can also throw some silly, false positive warnings >> (which now turn into errors) because they are not as smart as new >> ones. > > I agree with both of the above. I do not think the pros-and-cons > are in favor of forcing the developer bit to everybody, even though > I am sympathetic to the desire to see people throw fewer bad changes > that waste review bandwidth by not compiling or passing its own > tests at us. I agree. Responding to the thread in general, perhaps people would like this more if we turned DEVELOPER=1 DEVOPTS=no-error on by default? That's basically why I added it in 99f763baf5 ("Makefile: add a DEVOPTS to suppress -Werror under DEVELOPER", 2018-04-14), because I wanted the abilty to have verbose informative output without the build dying on some older systems / compilers. It's fine and understandable if you're someone who's just building a package on some older system if you get a bunch of compiler warnings, but more annoying if you have to dig into how to disable a default -Werror.