If you aren't a heavy critic of Gimp there is something wrong with you. I appreciate that the app is free open source and developers are working for free but it seems they are cut off from most users. This is apparent by simply using the app. Virtually every feature has some kind of usability bad design and Gimp is not as stable and reliable as it used to be. Most people are not going to bother going on mailing lists. There doesn't seem to be any decent forum that everyone uses like there is for Blender as in Blenderartists and there is no Gimp manual for the latest version. Gimp appears to be a jack of all trades and master of none so there is no passionate community. A sign of the problems is that on Linux we have Krita and Mypaint. If Gimp's tools had been better for painting and manipulating things on the canvas we would not have needed those apps. Most people edit photos in a RAW editors now so these more comprehensive 2D image editors should not be centred around just editing photos. On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 at 07:20, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-developer-list < gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > пт, 16 нояб. 2018 г., 23:19 Simone Karin Lehmann simone@xxxxxxxxxx: > > > … > > > > "We don't do "release dates" :) We release when it's ready.“ > > > > Niccolo still answers, IMO, very politely > > and explains why, in his opinion, he thinks planned release dates are > > better than solely saying "we don't do release dates“ and explains how a > > smiley at the end of this sentence sounds to him and finally admitting > that > > he might be wrong, though. > > > > The problem here is that you are reading a reply that he later edited to > look nicer, after I replied to him. > > The original comment suggested that by refusing to set dates to releases we > tell users to f*** off (I'm redacting this here, he didn't). And there was > no admission that he could be wrong. > > Look, Simone, there are not many active contributors to GIMP, but those who > are, me including, spend upwards of 20 hours a week on this project (maybe > even more for some). It's like having another job (or another family). > > And since my job is pretty much about communication between users and > developers, I find his repeated suggestion that we don't care about users > incredibly offensive, which I told him about several times, and he never > had the dignity to apologize (which would resolve the conflict completely). > On the contrary, instead of apologizing, he did his best to discredit my > involvement, not to mention all the expletives. > > It's your choice to protect an abusive person though. > > Alex > _______________________________________________ > gimp-developer-list mailing list > List address: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list > _______________________________________________ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list