2011/1/5 peter sikking <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxx>: > しげっち wrote: > >> I know that there was a discussion about the consumption of the >> vertical space of the toolbar once in the mailing list. > > I also spent most of a talk at an lgm discussing this topic. > > in the bigger scheme of things (space, how usable toolbars are) > I do not see GIMP having a toolbar. > >> 2011年1月4日20:46 peter sikking <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxx>: >>> >>> when making UI, one has to: >>> >>> 1) identify the issue >>> 2) find the cause >>> 3) evaluate everything (including brainstorm ideas) >>> 4) make a solutions model >>> 5) design the UI >>> 6) develop it >>> >>> and although things go a bit jumbled every once in a while, >>> this is what happens here at GIMP. >> >> ==snip== >>> >>> steps 2-5 are what I bring to any project and customer I work with. >> >> I agree that these features must be reviewed by many people in >> official and commercial process, >> but we also want to have a prototype to get positive feed back. >> >> It's very good and superior point of the open source software to >> implement GUI freely by anyone >> and have review it by many other people. >> >> It's just a patch of the my private work for now, so we can review it >> and simply ignore many >> of them. Let's try step 2-5 based on the feedback from existing prototype. > > nice try, but: no. > > I tried to show you why in my previous mail. > I can only add that a developer plunking in a code change at > users' request and then let users' feedback sort it out > is the 'armpit of usability' (i.e. the worst possible). see: > > <http://blog.mmiworks.net/2008/09/armpit-of-usability_20.html> > Well, you don't permit the GIMP to have the toolbars even if it is OPTIONAL and it doesn't replace or overwrite any existing GUI policy ? I think it can be merged as an optional code, and safely ignore that feature in compile time of runtime switch. (currently I don't implement any switches though.) I think open source project can have several policy as a optional implementations, and it can provide alternative way for users who has alternative demands. -- sigetch _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer