On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Michael Grosberg <mgrosberg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > To give my $0.02, I think Gimp should simply emulate what is out > > > there, > > > namely the behavior of established applications such as Open Office > > > and > > > gedit. > > > > I am really struggling to say something nice here... ah: > > > > The perfect family car was invented ages ago: the volkwagen beetle. > > > > That did not stop designer from creating totally different cars for > > different needs. And customers from actually buying better cars. > > > No reason to design a joystick-steered three wheeled car just to be > different! Predictability of the UI is a very powerful tool and should > not be dismissed. Applications don't work in a vacuum: they are used > along with other applications, and asking users to "switch mental gears" > when they switch from one app to another for no reason is not a good > thing. The developers of those apps have struggled long with exactly the > same problems Gimp is trying to solve and have come up with good > solutions. > > Case in point: in your specification you state that the application will > quit if: > "Close in the File menu is invoked and the no image' window is shown" > While usually in such cases the close command is grayed out and only the > quit command is available. What good reason do you have to change that? I agree this is difficult. I believe the intent here is to make gimp more symmetrical, so you can close images, and then you close the final image (the no-image-window) > > The idea of a window with no document in it is already established. You > yourself said "no gimmicks" and yet in the design there's a cute looking > wilber in the window's background, which is nice but really, you think > without it users won't know what this window is? give users some credit! > it's a gimmick and by your own rules should be removed. I must disagree. It is not a gimmick, because without it, it is difficult to rapidly identify where to drop. If your window has a title bar (keep in mind that not all window manager's show a titlebar attached to the window -- eg the WM I use shows the title of the window that is currently focused only, at the top of the screen.), the icon that identifies it as a gimp window is small, and may be obscured by other windows. Since this window is a DnD target and the user may want to do multiple drops quickly, it must be identifiable to the user in the greatest number of situations. Standard icon+text titlebars do not provide this. _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
