hiya, thanks for responding, On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 12:54:12PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: > Carol Spears <carol@xxxxxxxx> writes: > > > are there other instances of tools that do not appear in either the > > menus or in the toolbox? > > No. All tools register a menu entry at least. A few of them set a flag > that indicates that they don't want to show up in the toolbox. We > should probably make this configurable somehow; perhaps for 2.2. > > Does that answer your question? > having seen alts egg in gimp-1.2, i have no idea what might not show up in the gimp menus. i really thought that someone might 'fess (confess) to having a tool or plug-in included in gimp that does not use the usual registration protocol to get there. i was sorry to see only one negative and late response here. i wish i had time to try all the different key combinations on all the buttons of all the widgets to see if what you say is true. one thing i have learned, is that just because i try to do things the right way, it doesn't mean that others have done the same thing. carol