Re: matching multiple families in <alias> and <test>

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Akira TAGOH wrote:
Thanks for trying.

FWIW I noticed that what I mentioned at Bug#33644 has inconsistency in
the usage of qual. it is, even though qual="any" and qual="all"
affects values in<test>, qual="first" and qual="not_first" actually
affects values in the pattern. I suppose it may be a bug in FcOpComma

You mean comment #8 in that bug
( https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33644#c8 )? Well I think that suggestion would be a different interpretation than what is currently implemented.

I've always found the qual's in fontconfig to behave as I expected, i. e. to specify whether the (single) value from <test> should match at:

* first position
* 2nd+ position
* all positions
* any position

in the pattern.
So qual="all" is mostly useful for compare="not_eq", or if the preceding rule used mode="assign_replace" to remove all other fallback stuff from the element.

Using other qual's than "any" with FcOpComma in <test> should trigger some pretty awkward behavior at the moment, because the order of FcOpComma operands will decide which one is used to check for the position(s) in the pattern, which is totally counter-intuitive (for example, I think for qual="all" the last operand would need to get the match, while for "first"/"not_first" it's likely different).

But it's not allowed currently anyway ;-)

This reminds me that we have to restructure the expression rules in
the configuration, including any possibilities to introduce new syntax
and we need to discuss first how to build the rules for "A AND B" and
"A OR B" with/without FcOpComma say and may need to discuss if we
should make the implicit rules clear in the configuration too, like
the position of element that<edit>  take effects as we are discussing
now. we can go back to the alias thing after that because of its
purpose.

You mean using <or> etc. not only to calculate ordinal FcTypeBool values, but also for disjunction of subexpressions in <test>? But still, as you said, the problem where to apply edits if more than one value matched remains...

Raimund
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