Hello, my first post. I come across a lot of presentation PDFs using Lucida Sans fonts. I didn't have the font in Kubuntu 12.04 amd64, but my legal paid-for Windows Vista partition has a /Windows/Fonts/l_10646.ttf that fc-scan identifies as family "Lucida Sans Unicode". So risking death by lawyers I installed this as a personal font to ~/.fonts using the KDE fontinst Control Module, and now % fc-match "Lucida Sans Unicode" returns l_10646.ttf: "Lucida Sans Unicode" "Normal" Great... except fontconfig won't use this font for the many documents and web pages specifying just "Lucida Sans" or the Mac OS X version "Lucida Grande". fc-match confirms it still uses DejaVuSans.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Book" and indeed DejaVu Sans appears to be the fallback font for them in Inkscape and Firefox.[**] The situation where someone has one Lucida Sans font but not the others is extremely common as there are numerous blog posts discussing the ordering of these fonts in CSS to get the best results, e.g. <http://qelix.com/blog/tag/lucida-grande/>. Perhaps fontconfig should have a default rule supporting this situation? I'm clueless but it would seem to be some kind of <alias> grouping all three Lucida Sans into a pseudo-family "variations on Lucida Sans" that says if you've got one of the fonts, then use it for the other two. But none of the existing rules seem to do this, they assume you have one font that can default for others, e.g. /etc/fonts/conf.avail/30-urw-aliases.conf [**] Do sans serif fonts all default to DejaVu Sans because /etc/fonts/conf.avail/60-latin.conf has a prefer section that lists it first? <alias> <family>sans-serif</family> <prefer> <family>DejaVu Sans</family> <family>Bitstream Vera Sans</family> ... I read the doc in file:////usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html and can't figure out from it what to do; it doesn't have recipes for things like this, and it has been found that passive voice is to be avoided. Thanks greatly for any help. -- =S Page _______________________________________________ Fontconfig mailing list Fontconfig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/fontconfig