>Yes, nm-applet complains this way (.xsession-errors) that NM is not running. >I agree that, in addition, nm-applet should let the GNOME user know when NM >service (/etc/inet.d/NetworkManager) is not running, instead of just removing >nm-applet icon from the panel. > >I think of these ways to do that: >1. display a standard GNOME notification message that NM is not available, at > nm-applet startup time or at any time NM changes its status to unavailable >2. keep nm-applet icon in a panel at all times, but if NM not available, then > to mark it with a red arrow or some other visual overlay and display > a "NetworkManager: disabled" message when moving a mouse over it. > Note that red "x" overlay is already taken for "Networking disabled" status. >3. both 1 and 2 above I much prefer 2. This makes it clear that nm-applet is running (visually distinct from the case where "Startup Applications" was configured to not run nm-applet), and presents current status without disturbing the user with notifications that require either explicit interaction to dismiss, or patience to wait for them to vanish after some delay. State-change notifications from strategy 1 can suffer when they do not coincide with current activity: I was not interested in NetworkManager yesterday, when nm-applet announced it was not running, but today is different and I have forgotten the information from yesterday's notice. -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test