JB <jb.1234abcd <at> gmail.com> writes: > ... > I tested Richard's case. > In console terminal: > # chkconfig --list NetworkManager > NetworkManager 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off > # /etc/inet.d/NetworkManager stop > > $ startx > nm-applet started; no nm-applet icon in a panel. > $ ps aux |grep -i networkmanager > $ ps aux |grep -i nm-applet > jb 31469 0.0 0.4 174292 10032 ? Sl 01:31 0:00 nm-applet > --sm-disable To continue the response to Richard's remarks: On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 18:43 -0400, Richard Ryniker wrote: > ... > Do you think these messages are just a fancy way for nm-applet to say > NetworkManager is not running, or is something actually wrong? I tend > toward the latter interpretation. If nm-applet wants to complain that > NetworkManager is not running, it would do much better to say that. > ... Yes, nm-applet complains this way (.xsession-errors) that NM is not running. I agree that, in addition, nm-applet should let the GNOME user know when NM service (/etc/inet.d/NetworkManager) is not running, instead of just removing nm-applet icon from the panel. I think of these ways to do that: 1. display a standard GNOME notification message that NM is not available, at nm-applet startup time or at any time NM changes its status to unavailable 2. keep nm-applet icon in a panel at all times, but if NM not available, then to mark it with a red arrow or some other visual overlay and display a "NetworkManager: disabled" message when moving a mouse over it. Note that red "x" overlay is already taken for "Networking disabled" status. 3. both 1 and 2 above JB -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test