Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: It fails in this particular way because you don't have NM even installed I don't? This was a straightforward installation from the F14 installation DVD, updated to the current date. I see: [ryniker@mini ~]$ rpm -q --all | grep Network NetworkManager-0.8.1-9.git20100831.fc14.i686 NetworkManager-openconnect-0.8.1-1.fc14.i686 NetworkManager-glib-0.8.1-9.git20100831.fc14.i686 NetworkManager-vpnc-0.8.1-1.fc14.i686 NetworkManager-gnome-0.8.1-9.git20100831.fc14.i686 NetworkManager-pptp-0.8.1-1.fc14.i686 NetworkManager-openvpn-0.8.1-1.fc14.i686 [ryniker@mini ~]$ Should I see something more here? True, as the chkconfig output indicated, this system is not set up to start NetworkManager during boot, but I believe the usual NetworkManager packages are present. Have I misunderstod what you mean by "installed"? Anyway, I accept this is a confusing way to report a reasonable configuration, and not an outright bug. -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test