On 09/12/2010 12:09 AM, David wrote:
A personal email to give you the opportunity to realize you were wrong and change course while saving face. An opportunity on which, alas, you failed to capitalize.A personal email that complains of my 'attack'? :-) No one trying to be helpful deserves the kind of reply you made to me. Even people who do nothing but point out problems are helpful. The people who work on Fedora, or any other software product, need to hear negative as well as positive feedback from users.You, personally, perhaps did not deserve what I considered as a satirical reply to a 'whine' type post. That was the impression that I got from your post. A 'whine'. Furthermore, to suggest that I was "whining" when I politely expressed concerns about the quality of an upcoming release, went to the trouble of checking bugzilla for these issues, and created tickets for the ones that weren't already there, is patently absurd. Having said that, even if I were a total newbie who had been doing nothing but whining, that's still useful feedback for the developers. In that case, making polite suggestions for how to give better feedback in the future is a great way to help improve the community and improve Fedora. Sarcastically dismissing someone who is trying to help is not. Actually, half of the bugs in the list I posted last night were first posted to bugzilla by other people. Which you would have known, if you had taken a minute or two to think about what I posted rather than shooting from the hip. But apparently you didn't do that because you "don't really care." You apparently think it's more helpful to the community for you to attack other people who are trying to help than to actually put some effort into participating intelligently in the discussion.I can understand that these supposed problems are important to you. Notice the 'to you'. But since no one else seems to have reported them Having said that, are you saying that it is only useful for testers to report bugs that other people have already posted? That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. jik |
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