I'm skeptical that "kill the X server and lose entire desktop" is so much better than "reboot system and lose entire desktop and have service outage" that having that first option available reduces the number of bugs filed. Application crashers - even those that don't take out the entire desktop - are taken pretty seriously. I can't imagine a developer replying, "Oh, just save your buffers frequently and hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace if my application wedges your entire login again." I've reported at least one bug where Evolution messed up X to the point where you had to kill one or the other. It got fixed. On the other hand, I've reported kernel crashes that haven't gotten fixed. I think the likelihood that something will get fixed depends more on how many people are affected and how easy it is to diagnose and fix, than whether it forces an X restart vs. reboot. -B. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list