I'm wondering. What architecture did all this GRUB trouble start on? And what sort of partition setup? I've been using FC4test2 since the day it came out and I have not had a single problem with either bootloader. They both worked fine for me. Just in case it has anything to do with partition table I'll post mine. ( 160G Western Digital IDE Hard Drive ) 98% ext3 / 2% swap I have not had a single problem. -- kyle